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The discussion highlights the perception of Donald Trump in China, where he is referred to as "Comrade Jianguo," indicating that his presidency is viewed as beneficial for China due to America's perceived decline. Chinese political elites believe Trump's self-interest and lack of intellectual curiosity provide an opportunity for China to assert its global vision. The conversation also touches on the geopolitical implications of a potential invasion of Taiwan during Trump's presidency and the impact on semiconductor production, particularly concerning TSMC and UMC, with timelines for establishing new fabrication facilities outlined in detail.

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By Roger McShane, China editor, The Economist [The World Ahead 2025 edition page 40]

The first 2 paragraphs of the article:

HE IS KNOWN as Comrade Jianguo on Chinese social media. But this nickname for Donald Trump is not an expression of solidarity. The term jianguo means “build the nation”. Chinese netizens are referring to their own country. The sobriquet reflects a view that the new president is so bad for America that he is good for China.

Some members of China’s political elite espouse a more refined version of this view. They judge Mr Trump to be intellectually incurious and, above all, self-interested. His re-election is seen as further evidence of America’s decadence and decline. That provides China’s rulers with an opportunity to push their vision of how the world should be run.
 
Plus, if China invades Taiwan while he's in office, he'll just roll over and say "pet my belly".

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Plus, if China invades Taiwan while he's in office, he'll just roll over and say "pet my belly".

He might, but that will really bite him. As I see it, if TSMC and UMC are off-line for any reason, a potential time line, assuming an extreme sense of urgency roughly looks like -

Brick-and-mortar done in AZ (assuming they really do find enough water for all these fabs) - 2 years

1 12nm fab line equipped - +1 year, assuming orders were placed at time zero

1st production wafer of driver device off the line - +1 year

Driver device has acceptable yields and is ramped to volume - +6 mos

Fab is ready to accept wafer starts for additional devices if capacity is available at this point.

Fab can be expected to yield well without lots of device specific process engineering for any device compatible with the design rules - +2 years to never. In the meantime, other devices can built, it just takes a few months of process tweaking to get the new device to yield well.

That's just for one clean room facility bring up - each separate such fab line will take a couple years to duplicate and ramp to volume production, although if one can hire enough process engineers they can certainly be done in parallel, and probably would be.

My gut feeling is planet earth would be 5'ish years or so away from getting out from under losing TSMC / UMC production capacity, assuming there was a united West behind replacing it.

In the meantime, Nvidia truly can't get their devices built, and they would be in good company on that unpleasant boat.

Analog / mixed-signal semi's are in much better shape, supply chain-wise. Its really advanced node digital devices that are so subject to geo-political risk.
 
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