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The forum discussion highlights alarming incidents regarding the treatment of foreign nationals and academics in the United States, particularly under the Trump administration. A French scientist was denied entry due to his critical views on Trump policies, while an Irish charity criticized Conor McGregor's visit to the White House, linking it to the normalization of sexual violence. Additionally, a Venezuelan soccer player was deported under the Alien Enemies Act due to a tattoo, raising concerns about the implications of such actions on freedom of expression and human rights. These incidents collectively illustrate a troubling trend in U.S. immigration and civil liberties.

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Strange
Behind the scenes is probably a more sordid story.

Did he bring her into the USA as a minor, undocumented through his "modelling" agency?
Stars in her eyes for promises given.
She flew on an Epstein flight as few times at 15, 16.
What young girl wouldn't?
Is that a bit of child trafficking under the covers.
But guess having a kid together makes it all right. ( for her/him/public - I don't know )
Declaration of a husband / wife team - there is some issue with a formal marriage actually occurring.

Pam Bondi will get right on it, investigating all the hanky panky that tarnishes the administration, I am sure.
 

She Fought a Book Ban. She May Never Teach Again.​


Summer Boismier, a high school English teacher in Oklahoma, lost her teaching license after she protested a book ban. Now she is fighting to return to the classroom.

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Photographs by Nick Oxford

When Oklahoma passed laws that pressured teachers to remove books on race, gender and sexuality from their classrooms, Summer Boismier refused. She lugged a few into the trunk of her car and drove to her mom’s suburban house in Yukon, Okla., where she now lives. Kneeling on the rug in the living room, she began peeling off the dried packing tape, opening the cardboard tops for the first time since she had closed them in 2022. ...

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/29/us/summer-boismier-oklahoma-book-ban-protest.html

Comment: We call this "methods like those from the Dark Ages" over here.

Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (1986) said:
McCoy: What is this, the Dark Ages?
 

Forest Service Will Close Research Stations That Study Wildfire Risk​

Scientists say their work on fires and climate change could be lost as the agency moves its headquarters to Utah from Washington and shuts 57 research stations.

The U.S. Forest Service is closing 57 of its 77 research facilities in 31 states under a reorganization plan announced this week, threatening science that looked at how wildfires, drought, pests and global warming are putting pressure on forests.

The agency plans to consolidate its research division into a centralized office in Fort Collins, Colo., and move field researchers to locations in nearby states. But employees said they feared the move would lead many scientists to leave instead. The reorganization will also move the agency’s headquarters to Salt Lake City from Washington, affecting 260 employees.
...

www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/climate/forest-service-research-stations.html

Comment: Another move that will cost money for future generations, and very likely will also cost lives in the long run.
 

She Fought a Book Ban. She May Never Teach Again.​


Summer Boismier, a high school English teacher in Oklahoma, lost her teaching license after she protested a book ban. Now she is fighting to return to the classroom.

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Photographs by Nick Oxford

When Oklahoma passed laws that pressured teachers to remove books on race, gender and sexuality from their classrooms, Summer Boismier refused. She lugged a few into the trunk of her car and drove to her mom’s suburban house in Yukon, Okla., where she now lives. Kneeling on the rug in the living room, she began peeling off the dried packing tape, opening the cardboard tops for the first time since she had closed them in 2022. ...

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/29/us/summer-boismier-oklahoma-book-ban-protest.html

Comment: We call this "methods like those from the Dark Ages" over here.
She should forget about geaching and go into politics, children don't vote and parenthood that's not let parents think straight.
 

She Fought a Book Ban. She May Never Teach Again.​


Summer Boismier, a high school English teacher in Oklahoma, lost her teaching license after she protested a book ban. Now she is fighting to return to the classroom.

View attachment 1226
Photographs by Nick Oxford

When Oklahoma passed laws that pressured teachers to remove books on race, gender and sexuality from their classrooms, Summer Boismier refused. She lugged a few into the trunk of her car and drove to her mom’s suburban house in Yukon, Okla., where she now lives. Kneeling on the rug in the living room, she began peeling off the dried packing tape, opening the cardboard tops for the first time since she had closed them in 2022. ...

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/29/us/summer-boismier-oklahoma-book-ban-protest.html

Comment: We call this "methods like those from the Dark Ages" over here.

Eesh. It's an autodafé and a witchhunt. It reminds me somewhat of the Bonfire of the Vanities (Wiki) although perhaps not with the same historical impact. One can hope that the tables will turn as happened back then, where people got fed up with Savonarola and had him publicly hanged. It's just a scary reminder of how fickle public opinion is!

Savonarola's influence did not go unnoticed by the higher church officials, and his actions came to the attention of Pope Alexander VI. He was excommunicated on 13 May 1497. He was charged with heresy and sedition at the command of Pope Alexander VI. Savonarola was executed by hanging on 23 May 1498, and his body was burnt. His death occurred in the Piazza della Signoria, where he had previously held his bonfires of the vanities. Then the papal authorities gave word that anyone in possession of the friar's writings had four days to turn them over to a papal agent for destruction. Anyone who did not comply also faced excommunication.

--Wiki

Tough times!
 
Eesh. It's an autodafé and a witchhunt. It reminds me somewhat of the Bonfire of the Vanities (Wiki) although perhaps not with the same historical impact. One can hope that the tables will turn as happened back then, where people got fed up with Savonarola and had him publicly hanged. It's just a scary reminder of how fickle public opinion is!



--Wiki

Tough times!
It's fickle because it's sheepish, wherever the sheppard points they go... Bee bee bee.
It has nothing to do with meditated thought about local or international events.
For that a certain interest and attention span is required. And for most of the "public" and most of the time it's just not there. Thus no opinion just bleating.
 
It's fickle because it's sheepish, wherever the sheppard points they go... Bee bee bee.
It has nothing to do with meditated thought about local or international events.
For that a certain interest and attention span is required. And for most of the "public" and most of the time it's just not there. Thus no opinion just bleating.

If you're right, which you may well be, it just makes it sadder IMO.
 
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As a German, I am most angry about Vance and Musk. They don't get tired of accusing Germany of not respecting free speech. What they actually mean is that the German Nazis are not allowed to spread lies about the holocaust. Grok, does it, for example. And if I look up international ratings, I have to agree with a German cabaretist who said: "He should first clean up his own censorship front door!"

I am really angry. These two people do not know what they are talking about, yet it goes on and on. And to demonstrate what I mean ...

FIU Student Arrested After Asking Netanyahu to 'Drop Bombs' on Her Campus in a WhatsApp Chat She Called a Joke​

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"A 23-year-old Florida International University student is facing a felony charge after two messages she sent in a 215-person student WhatsApp group chat drew a swift response from campus police and, eventually, a Miami-Dade bond court.

Gabriela Saldana was arrested in the early hours of 17 April 2026, hours after FIU campus police investigated a written threat transmitted to a large student group discussing a forthcoming event at the university's Ocean Bank Convocation Center.

She was taken to Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center and appeared before Judge Mindy S. Glazer in bond court, where her bail was set at £3,960 ($5,000). The charge she faces, written threats to kill or do bodily harm under Florida Statute 836.10, is classified as a second-degree felony and carries a maximum penalty of 15 years in prison.

..."

Source (e.g.): https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/fiu-student-faces-felony-charge-over-whatsapp-threats-1792626

I guess neither Gabriela nor Soldana is a name you should be punished with in the USA of today. They are what Isaac and Rosenbaum were once for the Nazis in Germany in the '30s.

I cannot wait until Trump has destroyed the last bit of American reputation, since I hope it will also destroy American hegemony and credibility. This hypocrisy about free speech is indeed hard for me to endure. At least we do not arrest people who make bad jokes.

"He [Vance] should first clean up his own censorship front door!"

</rant>
 
<rant>

As a German, I am most angry about Vance and Musk. They don't get tired of accusing Germany of not respecting free speech. What they actually mean is that the German Nazis are not allowed to spread lies about the holocaust. Grok, does it, for example. And if I look up international ratings, I have to agree with a German cabaretist who said: "He should first clean up his own censorship front door!"

I am really angry. These two people do not know what they are talking about, yet it goes on and on. And to demonstrate what I mean ...

FIU Student Arrested After Asking Netanyahu to 'Drop Bombs' on Her Campus in a WhatsApp Chat She Called a Joke​

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"A 23-year-old Florida International University student is facing a felony charge after two messages she sent in a 215-person student WhatsApp group chat drew a swift response from campus police and, eventually, a Miami-Dade bond court.

Gabriela Saldana was arrested in the early hours of 17 April 2026, hours after FIU campus police investigated a written threat transmitted to a large student group discussing a forthcoming event at the university's Ocean Bank Convocation Center.

She was taken to Turner Guilford Knight Correctional Center and appeared before Judge Mindy S. Glazer in bond court, where her bail was set at £3,960 ($5,000). The charge she faces, written threats to kill or do bodily harm under Florida Statute 836.10, is classified as a second-degree felony and carries a maximum penalty of 15 years in prison.

..."

Source (e.g.): https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/fiu-student-faces-felony-charge-over-whatsapp-threats-1792626

I guess neither Gabriela nor Soldana is a name you should be punished with in the USA of today. They are what Isaac and Rosenbaum were once for the Nazis in Germany in the '30s.

I cannot wait until Trump has destroyed the last bit of American reputation, since I hope it will also destroy American hegemony and credibility. This hypocrisy about free speech is indeed hard for me to endure. At least we do not arrest people who make bad jokes.

"He [Vance] should first clean up his own censorship front door!"

</rant>
When your leader says - publicly, for everyone in the World to hear - that "A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again," if they don't agree to his terms, then this student seems to have used an acceptable negotiation tactic for a normal citizen.
 
Idiots have proliferated in Florida. The governor there has been one for a long time.
He has destroyed their universities.
Its a sad situation.
Thinking a lot will change at the mid-terms.
 

Isn't he the one with the graphic novels about the orphanages under Franco. Truly Rumania-level horror.

Yeah:




Perhaps a slight exaggeration, but it's a gem alright.

I truly hate it when people think comics are about supermen in spandex. Oh man, don't get me started! ;)
 
Today a 17 year old (missing 2 weeks before 18) "psychopath" had his court day. The family to the girl (13!) he murdered (grisly I might add, with a concrete brick, asphyxiation and rape), got out of what Denmark calls "forvaring" (read: incarceration until psychiatrists deem you a non-threat). Instead he got 12 years. The stepfather had a fit. The judges had to be removed because the aggression could be physically felt all the way up there.

The reason is because we don't use jurys. In this case 6 [sic!] judges came to a stalemate (and why?! why not use an odd number so a stalemate can't occur?). The reached a stalemate in which case the most lenient punishment counts.

What kind of weird system is that?

Indeterminate punishment as a ‘Contract’ in Denmark and Norway (journals.sagepub.com).

EDIT: Aargh, paywall!
 
Quite a few posts moved here -


at the suggestion of @fresh_42 . If I moved too many posts or too few, post authors let me know and I will modify.
 
Quite a few posts moved here -


at the suggestion of @fresh_42 . If I moved too many posts or too few, post authors let me know and I will modify.
Nah it's OK. But as I asked @Borg who changed the title to "Genocide & Eugenics"? Now we're gonna look like a bunch of nihilistic historians! :)
 
Nah it's OK. But as I asked @Borg who changed the title to "Genocide & Eugenics"? Now we're gonna look like a bunch of nihilistic historians! :)
Unfortunately this is not history history... this is actually history unfolding now.
Thus the title should have been "Current Genocide and Eugenics"
 
Unfortunately this is not history history... this is actually history unfolding now.
Thus the title should have been "Current Genocide and Eugenics"

Come on you two! keep it civil! I don't know who started with the personal angle but please let us have a nice discussion! ;)

EDIT: Oh, possibly wrong thread. Still goes though
 
Come on you two! keep it civil! I don't know who started with the personal angle but please let us have a nice discussion! ;)

EDIT: Oh, possibly wrong thread. Still goes though
Only personal angle I have is that I don't borrow somebody else's opinions. They are all my personal opinions, flat, no polygons on them!
:-)
 
A ten-year-old boy appears in court without his mother or a lawyer. He now faces deportation to a country he doesn't know.

A ten-year-old Venezuelan boy facing deportation proceedings in the United States appeared alone before an immigration court in Texas, while his mother remained in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). "I was scared because it was my first time in court," Wilfredo Hoyos-Gomez told the Spanish-language broadcaster Univision after attending a hearing at the Houston immigration court last week without legal representation.

Immigration authorities detained more than 6,200 children during President Donald Trump's second term, according to data analyzed by the Marshall Project. Of those, more than 3,600 children have been deported since the administration began, the analysis found. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Newsweek that the boy's mother, Nexoli Anyis Gomez Bracho, "chose to enter our country illegally, chose to take her son with her, and chose to commit a crime by resisting arrest."

Mother in ICE custody – son must attend hearing alone

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stated that Wilfredo and his mother entered the United States on August 24, 2023, after being released under the Biden administration following a migration contact. The boy's mother was taken into ICE custody in late 2025 and has remained in detention ever since, wrote Democratic Representative Joaquín Castro of Texas on X.

According to the ICE detainee database, Gomez Bracho is in federal custody at the Houston Contract Detention Facility in Texas. She was arrested during a traffic stop in Houston, KABB reported. Both the mother and son have pending asylum applications in the United States, the broadcaster reported.

A ten-year-old could be deported to Ecuador

Castro said the DHS was trying to deport the child to Ecuador, a country Wilfredo, he said, had never even been to. The congressman added that Gomez Bracho had a work permit and had tried to comply with immigration requirements. “ICE must release her and immediately stop its deportation proceedings against Wilfredo. He should be treated like a child—not a criminal,” Castro wrote on social media.
...


Source: https://www.fnp.de/politik/abschiebepolitik-unter-trump-kind-geraet-ins-verfahren-zr-94288586.html

Comment: It is a shame that Americans aren't even ashamed!
 
A ten-year-old boy appears in court without his mother or a lawyer. He now faces deportation to a country he doesn't know.

A ten-year-old Venezuelan boy facing deportation proceedings in the United States appeared alone before an immigration court in Texas, while his mother remained in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). "I was scared because it was my first time in court," Wilfredo Hoyos-Gomez told the Spanish-language broadcaster Univision after attending a hearing at the Houston immigration court last week without legal representation.

Immigration authorities detained more than 6,200 children during President Donald Trump's second term, according to data analyzed by the Marshall Project. Of those, more than 3,600 children have been deported since the administration began, the analysis found. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Newsweek that the boy's mother, Nexoli Anyis Gomez Bracho, "chose to enter our country illegally, chose to take her son with her, and chose to commit a crime by resisting arrest."

Mother in ICE custody – son must attend hearing alone
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stated that Wilfredo and his mother entered the United States on August 24, 2023, after being released under the Biden administration following a migration contact. The boy's mother was taken into ICE custody in late 2025 and has remained in detention ever since, wrote Democratic Representative Joaquín Castro of Texas on X.

According to the ICE detainee database, Gomez Bracho is in federal custody at the Houston Contract Detention Facility in Texas. She was arrested during a traffic stop in Houston, KABB reported. Both the mother and son have pending asylum applications in the United States, the broadcaster reported.

A ten-year-old could be deported to Ecuador

Castro said the DHS was trying to deport the child to Ecuador, a country Wilfredo, he said, had never even been to. The congressman added that Gomez Bracho had a work permit and had tried to comply with immigration requirements. “ICE must release her and immediately stop its deportation proceedings against Wilfredo. He should be treated like a child—not a criminal,” Castro wrote on social media.
...


Source: https://www.fnp.de/politik/abschiebepolitik-unter-trump-kind-geraet-ins-verfahren-zr-94288586.html

Comment: It is a shame that Americans aren't even ashamed!
Horrific. Unfortunately these stories used to be common in Denmark too as they were tightening their "foreigner laws" (I would have written "racist laws" but perhaps that's not fair(?). This was the nicest expression I could find.)

EDIT2: It took several years for Denmark to bring home a single woman with several children living in a Syrian refugee camp. Admittedly, she had joined ISIS and her "husband" (slavemaster?) fell in batlle. Obviously, now she regretted the whole thing. Not much sympathy for her up here. Still the children were innocent and they were welcome but the mother wouldn't leave them. I think it ended with her getting ~6 years in prison and being kicked out of Denmark. What became of the children I don't remember. Lots of stories like that at the time.

I seem to remember that German courts have a young person (18 +- 1) sitting (and perhaps weighing) in along with the actual court. I saw this on a documentary on the German court system. It's always struck me a sympathetic.

EDIT: Of course I have a hard time finding a reference but perhaps @fresh_42 would have better luck being fluent in the language?
 
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Yeah, it's more or less over: Sorry for the Danish but I'm sure Google Translate is up to the task:


The tone has been hard without any science to back it up. There are votes in it. Sadly.

"There is a tendency to refer to these women as terrorists who might commit terror when they return home, but research shows that over 90 percent of the terrorist attacks that have been committed in Europe are committed by people who have never traveled to Syria to join IS, but by people who grew up in the respective countries," says Anja Kublitz.


EDIT: Sorry for keeping adding stuff. This is my last I promise. I just found the phrase: "a terrorist who might commit terror" a little funny. I mean isn't that what terrorists do? :)
 
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EDIT: Of course I have a hard time finding a reference but perhaps @fresh_42 would have better luck being fluent in the language?

I'm not really familiar with the German Code of Criminal Procedure. Juries don't exist, and lay judges are relatively rare (only in 13% of all criminal cases), and lay judges must be between 25 and 69 years old. However, we have a very strict separation between juvenile and adult criminal law. This is essentially based on age. Under German law, children under 14 are not criminally responsible. Therefore, juvenile criminal law applies to 14- to 18-year-olds, and depending on the defendant's maturity at the time of the offense, it can be applied up to the age of 21.

I couldn't find anything about youth counselors or juvenile lay judges. However, I do remember something similar to what you described. I think it involved mediation, not criminal trials, but I could be wrong.

Our trials are fundamentally different from American trials. In fact, they can't even be reasonably compared. I remember an interview where someone was asked whether they would prefer to stand trial in a German or an American court. Their answer was: "If I'm guilty, in an American court, and if I'm innocent, in a German one." That pretty much sums it up. After all, the ICE agents who shot three Americans never even made it to trial. And don't even get me started on OJ. Instead, they treat kids as adults, as post #383 demonstrates. Will say, I am too lazy to look up the number of kids imprisoned in the USA.
 
I'm not really familiar with the German Code of Criminal Procedure. Juries don't exist, and lay judges are relatively rare (only in 13% of all criminal cases), and lay judges must be between 25 and 69 years old. However, we have a very strict separation between juvenile and adult criminal law. This is essentially based on age. Under German law, children under 14 are not criminally responsible. Therefore, juvenile criminal law applies to 14- to 18-year-olds, and depending on the defendant's maturity at the time of the offense, it can be applied up to the age of 21.

I couldn't find anything about youth counselors or juvenile lay judges. However, I do remember something similar to what you described. I think it involved mediation, not criminal trials, but I could be wrong.

Our trials are fundamentally different from American trials. In fact, they can't even be reasonably compared. I remember an interview where someone was asked whether they would prefer to stand trial in a German or an American court. Their answer was: "If I'm guilty, in an American court, and if I'm innocent, in a German one." That pretty much sums it up. After all, the ICE agents who shot three Americans never even made it to trial. And don't even get me started on OJ. Instead, they treat kids as adults, as post #383 demonstrates. Will say, I am too lazy to look up the number of kids imprisoned in the USA.

I remember an American couple where one of them was diagnosed with cancer while on holiday in Germany. It was treated, practically cured, and they were sent home for the American system to handle the rest. When they asked what they owed they were completely taken aback by the answer: nothing.

I realize that Germany also, at least partly, rely on medical insurance, so it might just have been tourism publicity, but as I said they were shocked!

EDIT: I'm gonna polish off my German (after all I lived in Sønderborg for >10 years!) and find that reference....
 
A ten-year-old boy appears in court without his mother or a lawyer. He now faces deportation to a country he doesn't know.

A ten-year-old Venezuelan boy facing deportation proceedings in the United States appeared alone before an immigration court in Texas, while his mother remained in the custody of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). "I was scared because it was my first time in court," Wilfredo Hoyos-Gomez told the Spanish-language broadcaster Univision after attending a hearing at the Houston immigration court last week without legal representation.

Immigration authorities detained more than 6,200 children during President Donald Trump's second term, according to data analyzed by the Marshall Project. Of those, more than 3,600 children have been deported since the administration began, the analysis found. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) told Newsweek that the boy's mother, Nexoli Anyis Gomez Bracho, "chose to enter our country illegally, chose to take her son with her, and chose to commit a crime by resisting arrest."

Mother in ICE custody – son must attend hearing alone
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) stated that Wilfredo and his mother entered the United States on August 24, 2023, after being released under the Biden administration following a migration contact. The boy's mother was taken into ICE custody in late 2025 and has remained in detention ever since, wrote Democratic Representative Joaquín Castro of Texas on X.

According to the ICE detainee database, Gomez Bracho is in federal custody at the Houston Contract Detention Facility in Texas. She was arrested during a traffic stop in Houston, KABB reported. Both the mother and son have pending asylum applications in the United States, the broadcaster reported.

A ten-year-old could be deported to Ecuador

Castro said the DHS was trying to deport the child to Ecuador, a country Wilfredo, he said, had never even been to. The congressman added that Gomez Bracho had a work permit and had tried to comply with immigration requirements. “ICE must release her and immediately stop its deportation proceedings against Wilfredo. He should be treated like a child—not a criminal,” Castro wrote on social media.
...


Source: https://www.fnp.de/politik/abschiebepolitik-unter-trump-kind-geraet-ins-verfahren-zr-94288586.html

Comment: It is a shame that Americans aren't even ashamed!
I don't understand how that can possibly work.

How does a judge receive a plea from a 10-year-old? How can an answer - whether it is "guilty" or "not guilty" - be valid from a 10-year-old?

Then, say he is found guilty. How does deporting a 10-year-old work when he is sent to a country he's never been to? You leave him at the airport and tell him, "Good luck!"?
 
I don't understand how that can possibly work.

How does a judge receive a plea from a 10-year-old? How can an answer - whether it is "guilty" or "not guilty" - be valid from a 10-year-old?

Then, say he is found guilty. How does deporting a 10-year-old work when he is sent to a country he's never been to? You leave him at the airport and tell him, "Good luck!"?
Canada must be a happy place! :D

No, but seriously, in Demark they aren't send "home". They're just interned in camps. That's much better!
 
I am still of the opinion that separating children from their parents is a crime against humanity. Arrested since 2025? No legal representation? Even in the Middle Ages, they knew the Habeas Corpus principle.
 

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