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The forum discussion highlights alarming incidents regarding the treatment of foreign nationals and academics in the United States, particularly under the Trump administration. A French scientist was denied entry due to his critical views on Trump policies, while an Irish charity criticized Conor McGregor's visit to the White House, linking it to the normalization of sexual violence. Additionally, a Venezuelan soccer player was deported under the Alien Enemies Act due to a tattoo, raising concerns about the implications of such actions on freedom of expression and human rights. These incidents collectively illustrate a troubling trend in U.S. immigration and civil liberties.

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  • Understanding of U.S. immigration laws and policies
  • Knowledge of academic freedom and its implications
  • Familiarity with the Alien Enemies Act
  • Awareness of the socio-political climate under the Trump administration
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  • Research the implications of the Alien Enemies Act on current immigration practices
  • Explore the concept of academic freedom and its legal protections
  • Investigate the normalization of controversial figures in political discourse
  • Examine the impact of U.S. immigration policies on international relations
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This discussion is beneficial for human rights advocates, immigration lawyers, political scientists, and anyone interested in the intersection of immigration policy and civil liberties in the United States.

I look forward to the history textbooks that refer to the Beating of Big Balls in the same fashion as the Reichstag Fire.


A 19-year-old man known as “Big Balls” who played a key role in the DOGE initiative to shrink the size of government was assaulted over the weekend in Washington, according to city police.

Edward Coristine, who still works for the government, was assaulted by approximately 10 juveniles near Dupont Circle about 3 a.m. Sunday, according to a police report obtained by POLITICO.

In response to the Beating of Big Balls, Trump is deploying the National Guard and has taken federal control of the D.C. police, who are under instructions that they do "whatever the hell they want".

 
I look forward to the history textbooks that refer to the Beating of Big Balls in the same fashion as the Reichstag Fire.
The parallels get more by the day. I mean, the National Guard against the homeless in DC (in the evening TV news today)? How low can you be to chase the weakest of society?

We have a nice German word, "fremdschämen" which describes being ashamed by someone else's actions. It usually occurs on holidays in a foreign country, when you see how fellow countrymen behave badly and you feel ashamed for being from the same country. Today, I "femdschäme mich" for the behavior of the American National Guard, customs officers, and ICE. It is unbelievably sad.
 
We have a nice German word, "fremdschämen" which describes being ashamed by someone else's actions. It usually occurs on holidays in a foreign country, when you see how fellow countrymen behave badly and you feel ashamed for being from the same country. Today, I "femdschäme mich" for the behavior of the American National Guard, customs officers, and ICE. It is unbelievably sad.
Correct. When I lived and worked overseas, I felt disgusted and ashamed witnessing inebriated screaming American (by their accents and epithets) tourists careening wasted through streets in broad daylight.

"How juvenile and uncultured !", I thought. "Would they vomit and spew profanity in their hometowns?". Now I think that they probably do exactly that. No respect for others.
 
Correct. When I lived and worked overseas, I felt disgusted and ashamed witnessing inebriated screaming American (by their accents and epithets) tourists careening wasted through streets in broad daylight.

"How juvenile and uncultured !", I thought. "Would they vomit and spew profanity in their hometowns?". Now I think that they probably do exactly that. No respect for others.
This seems to be a universal feeling, and I'm a bit surprised that only we have a verb for it, probably because of the possibility to concatenate words in German (fremdschämen = alien shaming).

I remember a holiday in Italy. The package included a day trip to Florence by bus. The problem was that there had been no tour for Germans on the day we planned the tour. We therefore joined a group of British tourists. It didn't make much difference for us. Since we spoke German on the bus, the others soon recognized we were Germans. It was an interesting experience. All of a sudden, we were a kind of observers for no factual reason. The only difference between us and the rest of the bus was the passport, so what? On our bus drive back to the hotel, a few, meanwhile, drunk British men got into an argument in the rear of the bus about the configuration of their seats, you know, same as on planes occasionally. It went so far that the Italian guide threatened to stop the bus right there in the middle of nowhere. You could literally see how the people around us felt embarrassed for their fellow countrymen, although they had absolutely nothing to do with the quarrel. It was interesting to see, since we often felt the same way when part of a group of German tourists, particularly when drunk.
 
Why don't they simply send her back instead of arresting her?
I don't know if this is the reason, but I think it could be one of those 'gotta meet those quotas' mid-management decisions for stroking upward movement along the chain of command.

Being sent back would be under the classification of ' denied entry', and sorta hum-ho doing your job. That type of behavior just will not stand out, even if more decent under the circumstances.

An ICE arrest and deportation looks 'better' for deportation statistics and performance of you and your team at the monthly meeting. "Looking good there Bob, keep up the good work catching those illegal aliens."
Promotion of 'bad apple' behavior unfortunately rubs off onto other members, especially when the top one(s) ( not orange man directly, but the others overseeing these units ) exhibits ( questionable ) templates of treat them like trash.

So, I think, any mindset of decent and gentle can get over run by a narrow 'at any cost' workplace ethics.
The conditioning of bad behavior at the workplace becomes the norm. Most of these agents are nice people with nice families at home, and would not expect their own close kin to be treated as such. Until it does happen.
 
the Beating of Big Balls, Trump is deploying the National Guard
Big Balls had balls - 1 against ten. Got popped in the kisser. Now known as Big Nose.

The DC National Guard are probably wondering again "What the .. are we dong here standing on a street corner." A lot of them have a fulltime job, being pulled from that and their home life for a non-emergency.
 
Comment: So much to "the land of the free".
Not sure if the dig is at Canada or the US or both.
The national anthem of Canada has a line The True North strong and free!

Canada certainly has a wonky immigration policy, some parts of it in line with the US and some parts not.
One can lay blame on Trudeau for the last ten years of influx of asylum seekers - around 10,000/month latest figures 2025, but the values seem to follow the world wide trend for western countries.

Total immigration increased from around 200,000/year circa 2000-'s to 450,000 starting in the 2020's.
Per capita, Canada has one of the highest, if not the highest, rate of newcomers to the country. Before that, there was discussion on whether 60,000 was too, too much.

I do believe at one time in the far past, family re-unification was part of the immigration policy, but that seems sidelined either by design, or as having become a lessor percentage of the overall influx. Economic considerations began to bear down on acceptability. One could buy their way in through a business investment, university tuition, perhaps by some other means such as sponsorship by an existing business to fulfill open employment positions, and of course temporary work permits.

As per the item mentioned, that should fall under family re-unification, or something of the sort ( caregiver and support ), I would have thought.

Why is it wonky? Cuz, to change his status, the individual would have had to exit Canada, re-apply, and suffer several years of papers shuffling from the official bureaucracy, with no absolute certainty of acceptance of becoming a permanent resident to help out his partner.

While I do not agree with the judges reasons for the temporary stay order ( was he himself being persecuted in some way? ), I do agree in the end result.
The stay would be better served had she been able to invoke caretaker status upon the individual to avoid the deportation order.

In the end, she is smarter than the immigration agent and his/her checklist.
Maybe she should run the department and get rid of the other pencil pushing doinks in Ottawa.

One will find this funny if not for the tragic results to the individual.
Early in the year, a young lady ( European, maybe Irish ) attempted to cross over from the US into Canada. She was on a backpack tour of the US, and after travelling her way around, she ended up at the Washington/British Columbia border enroute to see 'friends' in Vancouver. Although she had entered the US on a tourist visa, she did do an odd job for the peoples she stayed with such as washing the dishes, cleaning the house. If any monetary funds exchanged hands, it would have been minimal.
At the Canadian border house she was asked on how she was going to support her stay in Canada. I guess the incorrect answer was something similar to 'do odd jobs at the place of residence'.
She was denied entry into Canada, as that is work even if unpaid, pointed back to the US, to re-apply for admission into Canada. with proper paperwork.
Since, the same conditions apply Canada and the US for a tourist visa, she was now found out, ICE'd, and deported.
Apparently a tourist visa means exactly that. You are a tourist. Doing any sort of job, paid or not, even if trying to just help out, invalidates the requirements of the visa.
 
Apparently a tourist visa means exactly that. You are a tourist. Doing any sort of job, paid or not, even if trying to just help out, invalidates the requirements of the visa.
Sure. Nobody said anything else. However, such a judgement is based on a personal assumption of some officers, and in the case of the Swiss lady, ridiculously wrong since she considered the trip as her birthday gift. If you don't believe her, then send her back right on the spot. Arresting someone based on a personal assessment is wrong on so many levels.

Sorry, these are Nazi methods. Democratic states do not arrest people without evidence, or based on someone's "beliefs".
 
There was a case of a German woman who was arrested longer than the date of her regular ticket to return to Germany! How do you explain that? Her crime: she was - accompanied by her friend from LA - on a day trip to Mexico and had her tattoo instruments with her. Don't allow reentry if you believe she will be working as a tattoo artist, which I seriously doubt, while visiting her friend and having a return ticket, but do not detain her open ended without due legal possibilities.
 
I remember that one too mow.
That is why I say the officials are doinks with doinky official behavior.
 

A New Zealand mother and her 6-year-old son released from US immigration custody after being detained for weeks​


A Washington state mother and her 6-year-old son have been released after spending more than three weeks in US immigration detention due to a brief trip to Canada and a small paperwork mistake, her attorney told CNN on Saturday.

Sarah Shaw, a New Zealand citizen who has lived legally in the US since she arrived in 2021, was detained at the Blaine, Washington, Customs and Border Protection checkpoint when returning home after dropping her two oldest children off at the Vancouver airport for a flight to visit their grandparents in New Zealand.

Shaw, 33, chose the flight out of Vancouver because it was direct and she didn’t want her children to have to navigate a layover alone, her attorney Minda Thorward, told CNN.

But Shaw didn’t realize the travel permit that allowed her to exit and re-enter the US had expired. That’s when Shaw and her son, whose immigration documents were valid, were taken into custody by CBP.

Shaw tried to get a humanitarian parole, which would have allowed her to enter the US and return home, but she was denied, her attorney said.

Shaw then asked if her boyfriend or a friend could pick up her son since his documents were up to date, but she was again denied, Thorward said.

They were transported to the South Texas Family Residential Center in Dilley, Texas, roughly 2,000 miles from their home.

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Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/08/15/us/new-zealand-mother-detained-us-hnk-dst

Comment: And you wonder why tourism figures are down? Visiting or reentry to the US, even for legal residents, became a gambling event in which you can only lose.
 
Well, this is an obvious instigation tactic:


Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has ordered National Guard members patrolling the streets of Washington, DC, to begin carrying their service weapons as they fulfill President Donald Trump’s crime crackdown in the nation’s capital, according to a US defense official.

If a shooting involving national guard members doesn't develop naturally, then expect one to arise under suspicious circumstances in the next few weeks.
 
The US has stopped sharing Ukraine intelligence with allies:


In a July 20 directive signed by Gabbard, reported by CBS, the U.S. intelligence community was given orders to classify all analysis and information related to the Russia-Ukraine peace negotiations as "NOFORN," or no foreign dissemination, meaning the information cannot be shared with any other country or foreign nationals.

While it carved out exceptions for diplomatic channels and battlefield intelligence for Ukraine, it strikingly excludes sharing from the Five Eyes intelligence alliance, one of the closest spy networks in the world.

"When you talk about Five Eyes, you're talking about a lot of integrated systems and capabilities," said Philip Davies, director of the Brunel Centre for Intelligence and Security Studies in London.
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“It is quite a sad read,” one European intelligence official said of the latest Gabbard decision, after being granted anonymity to speak candidly. “We don’t feel it yet, but it is not a good direction. It is said [Gabbard] is strongly pro-Russian.”
 
Russian puppet! I read (but didn't search for evidence) that Schwarzenegger said: "You [Trump] bowed before Putin like a devote wet noodle."
 

Federal agents arrest firefighters working on WA wildfire​


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Over three hours, federal agents demanded identification from the members of two private contractor crews. The crews were among the 400 people including firefighters deployed to fight the wildfire, the largest active blaze in Washington state.
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One of the firefighters said members of the crew were told not to take video of the incident.

“You risked your life out here to save the community,” the firefighter said. “This is how they treat us.”
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According to one of the firefighters, they were denied the chance to say goodbye to the detained crew members.

“I asked them if his (family) can say goodbye to him because they’re family, and they’re just ripping them away,” the firefighter told the Times. “And this is what he said: ‘You need to get the (expletive) out of here. I’m gonna make you leave.'”
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Source: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattl...s-arrest-firefighters-working-on-wa-wildfire/
 
It's not militarization of companies. It's corporatization of the military.
Accurate comment. I attended a mandatory meeting for senior USAF NCOs in 1979 during President Carter's first term. I do not remember details but we were instructed to "run the Air Force like a business".

Working alongside contractors earning ~4 times our salaries, the idea seemed outrageous. I left active service to return to university at my next opportunity.
 
"Yield, man!"


"Let the troops come into your city and show how crime can be reduced. It’s a morale boost for the county and it’s safe and right for everybody involved"

We now have the Speaker of the House telling the governor of Illinois and mayors of municipalities there to submit before the US military.
 
I thought that US Senators were supposed to be the real wielders of political power in the US.

What they hell are they doing, taking this kind of treatment from a D-list podcaster?


I think this is the greatest demonstration of how gutless US legislators are now and how systemically their base of power and authority has been dismantled. If this is the best the top 100 most powerful legislators in the country can muster, its a grave sign for any chance of democratic rehabilitation post-Trump.
 
This is the exact same justification that the US is currently relying on to try and justify having a navy strike group murder people on boats in Venezuela.

 
This is the exact same justification that the US is currently relying on to try and justify having a navy strike group murder people on boats in Venezuela.

From the article:
FBI Director Kash Patel told Congress on Wednesday that the southern border has been largely secured,
How? What's different?
At the southern border, the number on the terror watch list went from fewer than 10 a month at the beginning of this year to more than 500 a month from May to July.

Experts said the change is due to the administration’s decision to add major Mexican cartels to the list of foreign terrorist organizations.

Particularly at the southern border, agents and officers are flagging people who earlier would have crossed without triggering the watch list.

They are largely Mexican.
Oh! I see.

USA is now a drug-free country!

Wait, is it?

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The US used to have a constitutional amendment that would seem to deal with this sort of thing. I can't remember where it was in the overall list. Can you help refresh my memory on it? It seems to have been forgotten by everyone.

Oh well. More dead paper. Chuck it on the bonfire. They can use it to burn some witches.

Cancel culture re-visited from the very same people who detested it and spoke against it.
Rinse and repeat --- New and improved government sponsored --
 
Cancel culture re-visited from the very same people who detested it and spoke against it.
Rinse and repeat --- New and improved government sponsored --
I don’t know - this feels different and worse. The FCC head said ‘we can do this the easy way or the hard way’. To my ear, that is overt (threat of) censorship by the Federal Government. That’s a lot different than social censorship.
 
Another thing that would have been major at any other time - The buffoon this week officially declared Antifa to be a terrorist organization. On the face of it a person might think that it would only apply to terrorist acts. However, since MAGA *loves* to blame everything on Antifa, I expect that they will be labeling anyone and everyone that they don't like as being part of Antifa and therefore providing support to a terrorist organization. It won't matter if it's true or not - they'll still have to defend themselves at great financial cost from the lies and could go to jail for decades as a result of a bogus terrorism conviction. My shame in this country grows every day. :cry:
 
Another thing that would have been major at any other time - The buffoon this week officially declared Antifa to be a terrorist organization. On the face of it a person might think that it would only apply to terrorist acts. However, since MAGA *loves* to blame everything on Antifa, I expect that they will be labeling anyone and everyone that they don't like as being part of Antifa and therefore providing support to a terrorist organization. It won't matter if it's true or not - they'll still have to defend themselves at great financial cost from the lies and could go to jail for decades as a result of a bogus terrorism conviction. My shame in this country grows every day. :cry:
That is exactly Putin's game plan. It always works. The Nazis blamed the Jews, Putin basically every NGO, and Trump the Latinos, and now Antifa. The last one is so unspecific that it can be used for everything. By the way, I am passionately Antifa, too. There are not many things I truly hate, but Nazis belong in this category.
 
I wonder if that Antifa move was copied from UK Prime Minister Starmer, who is showing disturbingly Trump-like tendencies. Some of it is clearly a fairly heroic act intended to help maintain a good relationship with Trump himself, but I'm getting quite worried that he's going too far. Palestine Action, a specifically non-violent group protesting against Israel's treatment of Palestine, has been classified as a "terrorist organisation" in the UK after a few months ago some of them got into an RAF base and sprayed aircraft with paint. This seems an insane over-reaction, and hundreds of people have now been arrested simply for saying that they support the group (or in at least one case simply saying they support Palestine, or showing that they possess a newspaper article which mentions the case)!

The paint was apparently intended to embarrass the RAF so the relevant aircraft would need to be cleaned before it was usable again, but it is claimed by the government that it caused serious and expensive damage. On that basis, it would have been perfectly reasonable to arrest the specific people involved for trespass on the RAF base and (apparently unintentionally) causing that expensive damage. However, instead the whole organisation was classified as "terrorist", making it an offence to support it in any way, even apparently expressing sympathy for it!

Here's one famous reaction from back then:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...g-paint-terrorism-ministers-abuse-powers-gaza

And here's a recent editorial reaction:

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-the-ban-on-gaza-activists-must-be-overturned
 

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