Japan to send Taiwan Missles

[Greg Bernhardt]

Would it be close to deter China?

China criticises Japan's plan to deploy missiles on island near Taiwan

China called Japan's plan to deploy missiles on an island near Taiwan a deliberate attempt to "create regional tension and provoke military confrontation" on Monday, as a diplomatic dispute simmers between the two nations.

www.reuters.com

 

[dlu]

When the time comes when the chips can be made outside Taiwan, the economic incentive for protection of the country will not be there. Taiwan may then just end up merging on its own with China., if China still wants them.
Is Taiwan really part of China?
Indigenous populated until,
European enhanced migration from mainland Chinese.,
China booted Europeans out.
Japan defeats China, industrialized the island.
After WWII China said it is ours.
So yeah, a bit of some imperialistic behavior of kind and nice China over the centuries, and recently.

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

When the time comes when the chips can be made outside Taiwan

That is both an incentive to invade and an incentive for others to defend?

 

[dlu]

That is both an incentive to invade and an incentive for others to defend?

A similarity to the Falklands war?

Falklands were uninhabited when discovered by Europeans, and 'colonized' by Britain, France, Spain.
Argentina insisted it had a claim on the island due to past connections with Spain.
The Falklands were of insignificant economic interest to the British.
Except due to the aspect of the inhabitants identifying as being British subjects, and Argentina's unilateral attempt to alter the government of the island by invasion, as diplomatic talks were underway but stalling at times, to transfer them to Argentinian rule.
Both countries used National Pride as the rationalization for their responses.
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Do the Taiwanese inhabitants identify as Chinese, or something else separate from mainland China?
Would they themselves be able to accept rule under the CCP with a China today that resembles more of a Chiang Kai-shek China of social democracy rather than Mao's one of complete centralist control?


The cold war definitely played into Taiwan's favour under Chaing's rule -->> communism bad. For quite some time Taiwan was recognized by the UN as the voice of China in some respects even having a seat with a veto until 1971.

The mentality perpetuated nowadays is still somewhat akin to a continuation of the cold war with China, and protect Taiwan in the name of democracy. As seen by the 'the right of passage' in open waters argument, there may be some truth to that style of diplomacy? But is it put forward masking economic interests from both sides of the issue, interests being that of the Chinese ( who suffered under Japanese imperialism and civil strife during the early 1900's ) and that of western nations led by the USA.

 

[gleem]

Taiwan has explored some sort of reunification. But being apart for almost 80 years, it would seem that it is now essentially a different culture. Seeing how China has reneged on Hong Kong, it seems unlikely they would trust China.

 

[Grinkle]

Do the Taiwanese inhabitants identify as Chinese, or something else separate from mainland China?

According my Taiwanese friend, its a bit of both. He generalized that Taiwanese folks say they are the actual Republic of China. Their perspective is that the legitimate Chinese government emigrated to Taiwan to set up shop and country on the island. What remained on the mainland is something other than China proper, which is what the RoC became once the legitimate government settled there.

So the thinking goes, as it was explained to me ruefully by my friend. He was rueful because he believes that if Chaing Kai Shek's Taiwanese governement had never laid claim to actually being China per se and declaring the Chinese communists illegitmate, the mainland Chinese government would have much less concern for around Taiwan and care much less about annexing Taiwan.