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The discussion centers on the recent U.S. military actions against Venezuelan fishing boats, which have reportedly led to these vessels painting Russian flags to avoid capture. Participants draw parallels between current U.S. aggression and historical conflicts in Vietnam, the Persian Gulf, and Afghanistan, highlighting the lack of clear objectives and moral justification for such actions. The conversation critiques the motivations behind these military operations, suggesting they primarily serve the interests of politicians and the military-industrial complex rather than addressing the situation in Venezuela or the regime of Nicolás Maduro.

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  • Understanding of U.S. foreign policy and military strategy
  • Familiarity with the geopolitical landscape of Latin America
  • Knowledge of historical U.S. military interventions
  • Awareness of the role of the military-industrial complex in defense policy
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  • Research the implications of U.S. military strategy in Latin America
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  • Analyze the impact of military actions on international relations with Russia
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Political analysts, historians, military strategists, and anyone interested in understanding U.S. foreign policy and its implications for Venezuela and broader Latin American relations.

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Money hates most uncertainty and Trump is a walking wobbling uncertainty.
Of course this is not problem for him or his family, they invest just before he opens his big rottem flabby mouth.
Recent news (read in the last 10 minutes):

The US military entered another oil tanker in the Caribbean.

Trump pal gets access to Ukrainian lithium resources.

It is so obviously nothing less than piracy.
 
I find it really sickening, what USA has become.

They are now invading countries, murdering people in boats and stealing their resources for themselves.
Eyeing up countries belonging to allies, threatening them and taunting them. Publicly decreeing that they will take Greenland and that by military action (isn't off the table).

Lying about the Jan 6 attack, the attempted insurection. Pardoning those that tried sedition, those that violently broke into the Capitol, those that violently attacked the police.
And 70+ million USA folk including the vast majority of Republican Senators and Congressmen, think its all just fine and dandy. Or a joke, or great to be trolling the leftists and the rest of the world.

Really sickening stuff.

In 2016 The Trump campaign was promising to be about removing the establishment oligarchs, about getting rid of the abuse of the rich establishment and lobbyists and to give back control to the common people.
But what we have gotten is the exact opposite. The rich oligarchs have become more emboldened. Getting pardoned left right and centre for crimes, kowtowing to the billionaire Trump's whims, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, we all get rich.
 
Here we go Mexico.


Will the USA ever return to international law? Or will we have to live with a country doing whatever it wants because it has the strongest army? Russia and China don't sound so frightening anymore!
 
Will the USA ever return to international law?
1/2 rests on a democrat blue wave in mid term senate/house elections this coming fall and 1/2 rests on what happens in 2028. If we can't get accountability and investigations, 2028 is in real trouble and if 2028 falls to the Trump regime, it may be game over for decades until we have a new revolution.
 
1/2 rests on a democrat blue wave in mid term senate/house elections this coming fall and 1/2 rests on what happens in 2028. If we can't get accountability and investigations, 2028 is in real trouble and if 2028 falls to the Trump regime, it may be game over for decades until we have a new revolution.
By the looks of Trump he wont live for decades, but who knows.
And if he manages to get rid of elections, who then is his successor, Trump Jr? Bannon, Miller??
 
I find it really sickening, what USA has become.

They are now invading countries, murdering people in boats and stealing their resources for themselves.
Eyeing up countries belonging to allies, threatening them and taunting them. Publicly decreeing that they will take Greenland and that by military action (isn't off the table).

Lying about the Jan 6 attack, the attempted insurection. Pardoning those that tried sedition, those that violently broke into the Capitol, those that violently attacked the police.
And 70+ million USA folk including the vast majority of Republican Senators and Congressmen, think its all just fine and dandy. Or a joke, or great to be trolling the leftists and the rest of the world.

Really sickening stuff.

In 2016 The Trump campaign was promising to be about removing the establishment oligarchs, about getting rid of the abuse of the rich establishment and lobbyists and to give back control to the common people.
But what we have gotten is the exact opposite. The rich oligarchs have become more emboldened. Getting pardoned left right and centre for crimes, kowtowing to the billionaire Trump's whims, you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours, we all get rich.
I couldn't agree anymore, actually... anybody with a functioning brain will observe the events and come to exactly the same conclusions.

The US democracy is currently a Mickey Mouse ghost of what it used to be.
 
And if he manages to get rid of elections, who then is his successor, Trump Jr? Bannon, Miller??


It is widely believed that MAGA is a cult of personality (Trump), and if he does not continue as president, the movement will lose its influence. It is believed that no one currently has the charisma to succeed him. People like DeSantis monumentally failed to make a dent in his popularity even while trying to out-Trump Trump.

Trump has been able to hold sway over the GOP through his power of endorsement. He may be the only one who can continue his reign of horrors by endorsing his successor, but even that may not be guaranteed if that person does not also have some of Trump's ability to engage the crowds as he does.

Barron is too young, Miller is too evil and has no personality, Bannon has been exiled, and Trump Jr. doesn't have what it takes. Charlie Kirk might have had a go at it if he were still alive, just being old enough.

One thing is unclear at this point: how many independents and moderate republicans who voted for Trump are reconsidering their allegiance, after what Trump has done so far. Considering how the Democratic Party bungled its campaign, we can be hopeful they will do better in 2028.

We will get some idea in the midterm election this year. There is still too much uncertainty about how Trump's term will develop. If costs and unemployment continue to rise or if Trump gets us into a war, then it may be grim for the GOP.
 
It is widely believed that MAGA is a cult of personality (Trump), and if he does not continue as president, the movement will lose its influence. It is believed that no one currently has the charisma to succeed him. People like DeSantis monumentally failed to make a dent in his popularity even while trying to out-Trump Trump.
Don't get some confident in this. People who liked Trump still need to vote for someone. Just because Trump is gone doesn't mean they'll vote for someone like Kamala.
 
It is widely believed that MAGA is a cult of personality (Trump)

Trump has what in the corporate world we used to call "DNA" for the job - meaning just by doing what comes naturally to him he seems ideally suited to lead a populist / nationalist / low-information political movement.

I am very hopeful that without him on the ballot the GOP will be a fractured mess.

People who liked Trump still need to vote for someone.

My hope is they return to voting against the Democrat as opposed to voting for the Republican. Protest voting doesn't get the same turnout as the other kind.
 
Don't get some confident in this. People who liked Trump still need to vote for someone. Just because Trump is gone doesn't mean they'll vote for someone like Kamala.
I'm not confident about anything, especially who the Dems will put up for election. If they haven't learned anything from the last one, they might as well hang it up.
 
I couldn't agree anymore, actually... anybody with a functioning brain will observe the events and come to exactly the same conclusions.

The US democracy is currently a Mickey Mouse ghost of what it used to be.
Well, the problem is that the US media are poles apart. On the USA right you get FoxNews, Breightbart, OAN and whatever, spouting pro Trumpist/MAGA propoganda.
In the USA mainstream you get more balanced news, but lots of shock and talk about all the crazy that Trump and his ilk are doing. Lot's of talk, mostly opinion stuff and very little straight up delivery of the news. 24x7 News channels are really problematic.
What you really need is just a 1 hour news show that just delivers the news and doesn't have the talking heads debating how good or bad the news is.
 
The US democracy is currently a Mickey Mouse ghost of what it used to be.

Under normal conditions, I would have picked up this thought and asked whether it ever was. However, nowadays, such a discussion is a pure luxury and akin to debating the quality of food on a sinking ship.
 

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