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The discussion centers on White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, highlighting her communication style and effectiveness compared to previous press secretaries under Donald Trump. Participants express mixed opinions, noting her clarity and intelligence while also criticizing her for perpetuating misinformation. The average tenure for a press secretary is approximately three years, emphasizing the need for individuals in this role to compartmentalize their beliefs from their public statements. The conversation also touches on the broader implications of truthfulness in political communication.

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I kinda like this girl.
Talks clear, seems intelligent, youngest ever, takes no prisoners, a go getter, up beat, seems to relish the responsibility, ...

Any thoughts or insights on this press secretary? Or others?
For how long a time does one stay in this position?
 
She's a mouth peice for Trump and that's all I need to know.

There hasn't been one good hire in his admin.

She just spouts the same lies and misinformation
 
Well, that I know. I did not want to be a mean person by declaring her manner to be close to being shill-like, even though it is well known whose interests she is playing up.
I just thought she was doing a good job at it.
Not the message, but the way she handles it.
 
Or others?

She is presenting a very administration-centric perspective on issues and news; this is perhaps a cornerstone of the job-definition of WH press secretary, and imo she is effective in doing this. To me, she is very similar to Karine Jean-Pierre in terms of overall charisma / anti-charisma (depending of if one is right or left leaning) and in how articulate they both are. I think she has an advantage over Ms Jean-Pierre in that she will not be held to any standard by her boss other than whether or not she faithfully sticks to talking points. I think Ms Jean-Pierre was also expected to convince critically thinking people that her talking points made sense, and that is not an expectation that imo Trump has of his press secretaries. Example.

I don't watch WH press briefings much in general because any press secretary is something of a pundit, and I have grown weary of punditry since 2015 or so when imo polarization of the news media in the US really took a step function up.

For how long a time does one stay in this position?

This link says a bit shy of three years, on average. I think the position really requires a person who can compartmentalize what they are saying in a very heartfealt manner from what they may or may not really believe, and do this over long periods of time without burning out.
 
I think the position really requires a person who can compartmentalize what they are saying in a very heartfealt manner from what they may or may not really believe, and do this over long periods of time without burning out.
Yes, you're just saying that they lie, lie, lie, knowingly. Democratic party spokespeople do it as well but WAY less than anyone who speaks for trump. Trump's spokespeople are just like Trump in that you can tell when they are lying by noticing that their lips are moving.
 
you're just saying that they lie, lie, lie,
I suppose that is right - lying about their personal perspective and opinion more regularly than lying about facts. Its very hard to be proven a liar when you are basically presenting a perspective or opinion as though you believe it even if you don't believe it or you haven't really even given it much thought and don't know what your own beliefs are.

That's how I view the generic press secretary - saying things they haven't even really thought about as though they have thought about them and wholeheartedly believe them.

Its still lying, I agree.
 
I suppose that is right - lying about their personal perspective and opinion more regularly than lying about facts. Its very hard to be proven a liar when you are basically presenting a perspective or opinion as though you believe it even if you don't believe it or you haven't really even given it much thought and don't know what your own beliefs are.

That's how I view the generic press secretary - saying things they haven't even really thought about as though they have thought about them and wholeheartedly believe them.

Its still lying, I agree.
You make a good point. They, in some cases at least, simple don't care about or even consider the truthfulness of what they are saying, they just say it 'cause it's what the boss wants them to say.

There are exceptions certainly. I do not believe it possible that Sean Spicer was not aware that he was lying through his teeth when he mouthed Trumps "greatest crowd ever" statement. Trump may have convinced himself that it was true but Spicer had to know better.
 
Yes, you're just saying that they lie, lie, lie, knowingly.
I think in a traditional administration, the press secretary is generally truthful because they want and need the media to trust them. That's not to say there aren't instances of political spin which can make ones eye roll, but we kind of expect that from politicians.

Trump's press secretaries, on the other hand, just blatantly lie and mislead.

You make a good point. They, in some cases at least, simple don't care about or even consider the truthfulness of what they are saying, they just say it 'cause it's what the boss wants them to say.
That's their job. It's not to opine on their personal opinion or take on a situation but on what the President's position is.

There are exceptions certainly. I do not believe it possible that Sean Spicer was not aware that he was lying through his teeth when he mouthed Trumps "greatest crowd ever" statement. Trump may have convinced himself that it was true but Spicer had to know better.
I agree Spicer knew exactly what he was doing. I think Spicer didn't understand, perhaps naively, what he signed up for when he agreed to be Trump's press secretary. He probably thought he'd have to bend the truth here and there, perhaps a bit more than usual, but he didn't expect to have to make and defend blatantly false claims, like about the crowd size. Of course, he should've resigned instead of going out there and humiliating himself.
 
I finally had a laugh with Jon Stewart.
He says what I feel.

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He hit this one on target,
The host also noted that Leavitt is likely to be “the only one” who will be able to leave the administration “unscathed … Because I don’t think that she has any principles in there left to die.”


Principles hold you down. If you have principles, you might break one or two and then feel guilt, with a lot of internal strife, questioning yourself "Am I who I think I am ?"
No principles, no problem. And you sleep well at night.
 

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