Minnesota under siege

[Borg]

For sure.

NRA slams federal prosecutor’s post about Minneapolis shooting: ‘Dangerous and wrong’

A Border Patrol agent in Minneapolis shot and killed a man, ratcheting up tensions in a city already shaken by another fatal shooting weeks earlier.

www.fox10tv.com

I guess that I shouldn't be surprised that the NRA is defending the victim. I expect that the vast majority of them are MAGA-leaning but this hits them in their precious 2nd Amendment that they defend at any cost. They probably don't like having to defend Alex Pretti but it won't look good for them in court if they selectively defend gun owners. My bet is that they don't put up much of a complaint beyond this.

 

[Borg]

Here is what they are calling a domestic terrorist:

ICU nurse Alex Pretti honors veteran he cared for

 

[EricDMMiller]

If this is what they do to law abiding US citizen healthcare workers with valid conceal carry permits who aren't posing a threat, while they are being video taped, imagine what the non-citizens they disappear to their prison camps must be getting.

 

[EricDMMiller]

There's a leaked video on the /r/law subreddit showing conditions inside one of the concentration camps in Baltimore.

USA! USA!

 

[Greg Bernhardt]

There's a leaked video on the /r/law subreddit showing conditions inside one of the concentration camps in Baltimore.

USA! USA!

I read something about one man getting his testicles burst.

 

[EricDMMiller]

And these are the consequences for the things you say and the things you believe.

Border Patrol chief blames Democrats and journalists for Minneapolis chaos

‘When someone chooses to listen to a politician, a so-called journalist... that spouts that type of vilification towards law enforcement or anything else… there are consequences,’ Greg Bovino says

www.independent.co.uk

“When someone chooses to listen to a politician, a so-called journalist, or a community leader that spouts that type of vilification towards law enforcement or anything else… there are consequences and actions there also, I think we saw that yesterday.”

AAAAAAND THE HOOOOOOOME OF THE BRAAAAAAAVE

 

[Borg]

Full analysis of the shooting. It appears that they had full possession of Pretti's gun when the shooting started. DHS also hasn't said if his gun was ever fired.

Alex Pretti: Analysing Footage of Minneapolis CBP Shooting - bellingcat

Bellingcat has analysed video of the shooting of Alex Pretti in Minneapolis. The footage appears to contradict statements made by the Department of Homeland Security.

www.bellingcat.com

 

[Grinkle]

@fresh_42 Here is an example of what I described earlier as 'theater' that gets an occasional mention but isn't covered much since there is no way to make it happen. I consider NBC news to be mainstream media, not left media, for the record, so my assertion that mainstream media doesn't give these soundbites oxygen stands somewhat adjusted / corrected.

In my view, until political consequences can be be made real (a necessary condition for legal consequences I think) we are a morally bankrupt society. I am not noting the below as anything more than information.

Democrats grow louder on calls for Kristi Noem to resign or face impeachment

Eight more Democrats have joined an impeachment resolution against Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem after the latest fatal shooting by a federal agent.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Borg]

More on the state of this country. That a judge has to even consider something like this, says a lot about where this country is.
Trump admin. blocked from destroying shooting evidence

 

[gleem]

There are 3000 ICIE and CBP officers in Minneapolis, more than the police in the city and the surrounding suburbs. There are an estimated 130,000 illegals in Minnesota. Florida, a Republican state, has an estimated illegal population of between 700,000 and 1M but it only has a couple of hundred ICE agents in the state, although state law requires the cooperation of local police to help. The CBP officers are inappropriately being used in Minneapolis. They are not trained in immigration law or in crowd control. No doubt Trump wants a confrontation and a reaction from the citizens to use the Insurrection Act.

One final note, an ICE agent in Maine was said to have told a person taking video that they were being identified as a domestic terrorist and entered into a national database.

 

[gleem]

Remember this photo from Michigan April 11, 2020, as protestors stormed the state house.



With Trump posting: “The Governor of Michigan should give a little, and put out the fire. These are very good people,”

 

[placebo]

The CBP officers are inappropriately being used in Minneapolis. They are not trained in immigration law or in crowd control.

A common mistake is interpreting what's happening through the lens of what we expect from a normal, law-abiding administration. The lack of appropriate training is irrelevant because they're not really there to enforce immigration law. George Conway explains it better than I can:

 

[fresh_42]

I was in the kitchen. The news was on TV in the living room, and I was half-listening. It took half a minute, and only when the announcer used the word Iran, did I realize that the report wasn't about Minneapolis at all.

Strange new world.

 

[Grinkle]

A carrier group in Lake Superior? Makes total sense, tragically.

 

[fresh_42]

A carrier group in Lake Superior? Makes total sense, tragically.

It was about the riots and the videos of them. Could as well have been in Minneapolis (acoustically).

 

[Grinkle]

@fresh_42 Here is another example of pushback coming from the ICE homicides, although this one is getting quite a bit of attention and you may have heard about it in Germany.

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/26/nx-s1-5686473/senate-democrats-to-vote-against-dhs-funding-setting-up-potential-partial-shutdown

Some background on Senate rules and how it relates to minority party ability to impede -

In the Senate, measures that are related to mandatory spending can pass under what is called reconciliation, which only requires 50% of the Senate, and in this congress Dems cannot block a reconciliation measure.

ICE funding is discretionary, not mandatory by law, so the Senate R's cannot use the reconciliation process to pass it. It needs 60 Senators to pass it, so Dems can (and say they will) block it.

In general, if I ever wonder why Senate Dems are or are not blocking something, I start by asking the internet if its a reconciliation measure, and that often gives me the answer.

 

[MindlessPieces]

I guess that I shouldn't be surprised that the NRA is defending the victim. I expect that the vast majority of them are MAGA-leaning but this hits them in their precious 2nd Amendment that they defend at any cost. They probably don't like having to defend Alex Pretti but it won't look good for them in court if they selectively defend gun owners. My bet is that they don't put up much of a complaint beyond this.

I've seen that Fox News are now siding with the victim too. I guess that is because they are more beholden to the NRA than to Trump and MAGA.
Depends where the money is coming from I guess.

 

[placebo]

I've seen that Fox News are now siding with the victim too. I guess that is because they are more beholden to the NRA than to Trump and MAGA.
Depends where the money is coming from I guess.

I think it's more that even Trump has bowed to the public's reaction to the execution by replacing Noem with Homan and removing Bovino. Few people are buying the lame arguments trying to justify the killing. As shameless as the people on Fox are, I wouldn't be surprised if even they were embarrassed trying to side with the administration,

 

[Grinkle]

I wouldn't be surprised if even they were embarrassed trying to side with the administration

I do hope this is correct. Maybe he can't actually shoot someone in broad daylight and get away with it after all. I wonder if he is regretting that those words became such a prominent part of his brand.

 

[MindlessPieces]

I think it's more that even Trump has bowed to the public's reaction to the execution by replacing Noem with Homan and removing Bovino. Few people are buying the lame arguments trying to justify the killing. As shameless as the people on Fox are, I wouldn't be surprised if even they were embarrassed trying to side with the administration,

I doubt embarrassment, shame, integrity, consistency mean anything to these guys.

Fox, Trump, Republicans and MAGA have played up the Epstien files, and gun rights for years.
The USA conservatives turned on a dime over Russia, international trade, State's rights vs Federal overreach, but they are not turning on Epstein files, nor on gun rights.
Well the armchair critics are turning on gun rights, they are proclaiming the issue to be the victims' fault, "they shouldn't have been there, shouldn't go to protests with guns (Rittenhouse anyone?), should do as the authorities tell them (Jan 6 anyone?)"

But Fox News is siding with the victim because no doubt the NRA are putting pressure on them. The guy was a permit holding carry holder, has every NRA fought right to peacefully carry a gun.
I'm damn sure the NRA are putting much pressure onto anyone they donate money to, to take up their side in this.